[They really shouldn't. Just like some things shouldn't takes like pumpkin spice or turkey dinners. He's got opinions on those.]

Yes and no, if Satinalla is like Saturnalia. And I'm not going to argue that we don't have messed up traditions. Like, the concept of this huge holiday was basically 'how can we make money on this supposedly holy religious day'. And then many years later people start saying 'it's not religious.' It really is.